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Ramón Segundo Rafael Vidal[1]

Male 1888 - 1975  (86 years)


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  • Name Ramón Segundo Rafael Vidal  [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13] 
    Born 18 May 1888  Mayagüez Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12] 
    Gender Male 
    Died 22 Feb 1975  San Juan Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location  [6] 
    • old age, sirrosis of the liver
    Buried 23 Feb  Mayagüez Puerto Rico, Cementerio Viejo Panteón Lassise Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID P93  Turnier Family
    Last Modified 25 Jun 2020 

    Father José Vidal Y Lacomba,   b. Abt 1857, Hatillo, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Sep 1900, Mayagüez, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 43 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother María Emma Vélez,   b. 1860, Mayagüez, Puetro Rico Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1907, Mayagüez, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 47 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Married 1882  Nuestra Señora de la Candelaria, Mayagüez, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F34  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family María Antonieta Lassise,   b. 15 Jun 1892, Mayagüez, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Oct 1978, Mayagüez Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years) 
    Married 19 Mar 1915  Nuestra Señora de la Candelaria, Mayagüez, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Emma Ines Vidal Y Lassise,   b. 16 Mar 1916, Mayaguez, Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Apr 2001, Mayaguez, Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years)  [natural]
     2. Rafael Luis Guillermo Vidal Y Lassise,   b. 25 Jun 1922, Mayagüez, Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 06 April 2016, San Juan Puerto Rico Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 93 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 25 Jun 2020 
    Family ID F32  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
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    Recordings

    Raphael Vidal and Maria Vidal Lassise

  • Notes 
    • Rafael Vidal y Vélez was born on May 19, 1887 -"el año terrible del 87" (the terrible year of 87] in Mayagüez, Puerto Rico. He was the son of José Vidal Lacomba and Emma Vélez y de Vialis. The name his parents had chosen for him was Ramón Segundo, but on the babtismal fountain his god-mother, Carmen Cámara, refused to christen him with such name. She chose as his third name Rafael. He was known as Rafael all his life.
      Rafael had unusual opportunities in education. When Eugenio María de Hostos came to Puerto Rico in 1898 he began the first kindergarten along with his brother Bayoán de Hostos. My grandfather was one of the lucky children to attend such an institution. De Hostos was imbued with the ideas of Gregor Friederich Kraus, a German Philosopher, whose basic philosophy of communion with nature greatly influenced the education of Spain, firs to Francisco Giner de los Rios and the with the Instituto de Libre Enseñanza. Hostos had been a disciple of Giner and he believed that learning had to be closely associated with the observation of nature and rigorous hiking and exercise. The small kindergarten in Mayagüez could offer only calisthenics and hikes, but the last was one of the things that my grandfather kept throughout his life. Hiking, camping and observing nature were pivotal in the way my grandfather looked at life.
      For prep-school he attended one of the second tier New England prep-schools, Willberham Academy, and spent three years studying chemical engeneering at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. He never finished the degree, but the most likely reason was that the family finally lost everything.
      This story requires some explanation. Rafael and his siter María became the sole heirs of the considerable fortune of Juan de Vialis. He had disinherited Rafael's grandmother Julia, but eventually, due to the fact that Don Juan's heirs died childless, the money and many of the things, came to the grandchildren of Julia. So, my grandfather at age ten went from poverty to incredible wealth. His guardians were doña Barbarita Vélez and her husband Pepe Martínez. Pepe was also a friend of the Vidal family because he came from Hatillo. They proceeded to invest the money of their nephew and niece and their own in all sort of get rich schemes, while they dotted on the children: sending them away to fancy prepshools and ordering for María clothing from Paris. In less than ten years the money was gone along with La Palmira and Las Termopilas, two large sugar cane plantations.

  • Sources 
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      birth date: 18 May 1888 birth place: Mayagüez Puerto Rico residence date: 1 Apr 1940 residence place: Mayaguez, Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, United States residence date: 1935 residence place: Mayagüez Name: Ramón Segundo RafaelVidal
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